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The Dyson Minds 2025 Workshop: SETI around Black Holes

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Olivia Curtis, Van Hunter Adams, Daniel Angerhausen, Joseph Bates, Anamaria Berea + 7 more

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TLDR

The Dyson Minds 2025 Workshop explored black hole-powered post-biological intelligences and developed new observational strategies for SETI.

Key contributions

  • Explored "Dyson Minds," post-biological intelligences powered by supermassive black holes.
  • Examined physical, engineering, behavioral, and observational consequences of such civilizations.
  • Discussed thermodynamic limits, communication latency, and collective vs. coherent behavior.
  • Recommended anomaly detection in archival datasets (WISE, JWST, EHT) for technosignatures.

Why it matters

This workshop significantly advances the search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI) by integrating astrophysics, AI, and engineering. It provides concrete, observation-focused strategies for detecting advanced civilizations, or "Dyson Minds," around supermassive black holes.

Original Abstract

The Dyson Minds 2025 Workshop, held at the Center for Brains, Minds & Machines at MIT and organized by Penn State, MIT, and The Ultraintelligence Foundation, brought together researchers in astrophysics, engineering, artificial intelligence, computer science, and philosophy to examine "Dyson Minds" -- large-scale post-biological intelligences powered by energy harvested from supermassive black holes (SMBHs). Building on the ideas of F. J. Dyson (1960, 1966) and I. J. Good (1966), participants explored the physical, engineering, behavioral, and observational consequences of civilizations embodied as machinery operating near the universe's most powerful energy sources. The workshop aimed to develop new observational strategies capable of detecting signatures of such systems. Despite the highly cross-disciplinary scope, discussions centered on how a Dyson Mind might be constructed, how it might behave, and how those factors would shape strategies for the search for extraterrestrial intelligence. Key themes included the thermodynamic, mechanical, and stability limits of Dyson swarms; the trade-offs between power availability and communication latency in distributed minds; and how observability changes depending on whether Dyson Minds act as coherent entities or as loosely coordinated collectives. Across these topics, the consensus was that details of architecture and behavior strongly influence observational signatures. A major recommendation was to apply anomaly-detection methods to archival datasets, including those from WISE, JWST, and the Event Horizon Telescope, to identify unusual sources potentially overlooked by standard reduction pipelines. By integrating insights from multiple disciplines, the meeting advanced concrete, observation-focused strategies for future technosignature searches around SMBHs.

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